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governor romney, there's one thing i'm confused about. you say you don't want to go and round up people and deport them. but you say they would have to go back to their home countries and apply for citizenship. if you don't deport them, how do you send them home? >> the answer is self deportation. which is people can decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal document tation to allow them to work here. >> there was a little at the timer there in the back round. first of all, the phrase "self deportation". >> was a headline. >> yes. and it managed to summarize everything people didn't like about mitt romney. >> you mean firing you? >> well, the firing part of it. but the sort of cold part of it. that these are just sort of numbers on a spread sheet. these people were self deport. and i think the combination of the two, the cold hardedness and the cold-bloodedness of it just played into everybody's view of romney. >> like the bathtub is just going to overflow. >> well, it's just n
governor romney, there's one thing i'm confused about. you say you don't want to go and round up people and deport them. but you say they would have to go back to their home countries and apply for citizenship. if you don't deport them, how do you send them home? >> the answer is self deportation. which is people can decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal document tation to allow them to work here. >> there was a...
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i'm going to say it's mitt romney. this is a man who any republican, by historical standards, should have won the election against a president with unemployment above 7 pnt. with the wrong track in the 60 pnt in the economy still coming back but not coming back enough. >> but how do you call a man with car elevators in his house a loser? he's doing very well. victoria? >> my loser award goes out to my fellow texans, in terms of rick perry. rick perry flopped in the primary and then goes back to texas and puts all of his chips in the race. >> i'm going to go with all the of those ceos, including mitt romney. these guys may be wealthy and powerful, but they're a bunch of losers right now. >> really? why? >> because they got it wrong. how badly did they misjudge this president? how badly did they misunderstand the country which has given them so much wealth. those ceos backed the wrong side and now they have to face up to reality that not only is this president in power, but their custome customers, the people they work w
i'm going to say it's mitt romney. this is a man who any republican, by historical standards, should have won the election against a president with unemployment above 7 pnt. with the wrong track in the 60 pnt in the economy still coming back but not coming back enough. >> but how do you call a man with car elevators in his house a loser? he's doing very well. victoria? >> my loser award goes out to my fellow texans, in terms of rick perry. rick perry flopped in the primary and then...
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it really drew out that disconnect between the romney campaign and romney personally and everyone else. >> do you think it's his brand of ideology? >> no. >> do you think there's a few people out there pulling the load for everybody else? >> no, i think it's a cold, calculated business look. that's how he looks at it. it's like, hey -- >> i disagree. i think it's his philosophy and i think it showed in that tape. >> how do you know it's his philosophy? >> i'm guessing. >> mitt romney -- you can't say it's his philosophy because he never told us what that was. >> i think he said some nice things at one point. >> when he spoke at the democratic national convention, former president bill clinton brought the house down. this was one of the great speeches ever, i think, and it made the case for reelecting president obama in a way the candidate himself never got able to do, even to the end. let's listen to big bill at his best. >> are we better off than we were when he took office? [ cheers ] then, listen to this. listen to this. everybody's forgotten. everybody's forgotten when president ba
it really drew out that disconnect between the romney campaign and romney personally and everyone else. >> do you think it's his brand of ideology? >> no. >> do you think there's a few people out there pulling the load for everybody else? >> no, i think it's a cold, calculated business look. that's how he looks at it. it's like, hey -- >> i disagree. i think it's his philosophy and i think it showed in that tape. >> how do you know it's his philosophy?...
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was it mitt romney? don't bet on it. the real boss is a man other woman in the back row of a tea party meeting. the angry one who stands up and scalds him. it's that angry voice rising up from the back of the room that haunts the tea party-backed republican. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership? or, worse yet, the democratic president? or do they want to vote against all of that? no taxes? no deals, no compromises. no nothing. period. this is the wall that those of the tea party have raised up. they can't vote for what they campaigned against, spending money on government. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> tonight, in new york city, welcome to "politics nation" second annual revvie awards. it's the best and the worst in politics, 2012. look, all the big stars are on the red carpet. donald trump is in the unreality show category. paul ryan's pumped and ready to go. what's with the hat there? >> and what's an awards
was it mitt romney? don't bet on it. the real boss is a man other woman in the back row of a tea party meeting. the angry one who stands up and scalds him. it's that angry voice rising up from the back of the room that haunts the tea party-backed republican. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership? or, worse yet, the democratic president? or do they want to vote against all of that? no taxes? no deals, no compromises. no nothing. period. this is the wall that those of...
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romney destroyed rick perry on that issue. but it was in the rhetoric he deployed there i think he sealed his fate in the general election with latinos who he got blown out in and provided a huge margin in a lot of swing states. >> great point. my choice is, of course, the anonymous videographer who captured the 47% tape which is why we happen to have that tape now. >> i was going to say you guys worked that out. >> why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard because some part of me as a political junkie thinks the best move is the most incendiary crazy there, for that mitt romney moving across the stage and grabbing rick perry on the shoulder. this physical debate style which also revealed him for crazy and not driven by the same things most humans are driven by but the competitive workforce bot. i think at the end of the day we keep going back to the 47% video. i was waiting to hold it. >> you can use it as much as you want. it will be back. >> it is everyth
romney destroyed rick perry on that issue. but it was in the rhetoric he deployed there i think he sealed his fate in the general election with latinos who he got blown out in and provided a huge margin in a lot of swing states. >> great point. my choice is, of course, the anonymous videographer who captured the 47% tape which is why we happen to have that tape now. >> i was going to say you guys worked that out. >> why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what...
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. >> romney will be the nominee. >> republicans are waging war on women. >> is mitt romney from jupiter? >> do i believe the supreme court should overturn roe versus wade? yes. >> i love you, women. >> back in my day, they used bear aspirin for contraceptives. >> the gals put it between their knees, it wasn't that costly. >> a fascinating read. >> i know the debate over this law. >> democrats thought they would lose. the republicans thought they would win. >> i think roberts found the answer. >> when we look back, we'll be better off. >> governor romney's caught on tape moment. >> that shocking tape from romney. >> they will never take responsibility for their lives. >> i'm speaking off the cuff. >> if i were a rich man. >> people want to know who will win who will score the punches. >> presidential candidates battening down the hatches. >> i'm sorry, jim, i will stop the subsidy to pbs. >> i like pbs. i love big bird. >> a zinger every minute. >> brought us binders of women. >> we also have fewer horse and bayonets. >> horses and bayonets. >> oh yeah ♪ ♪ >> i just called president
. >> romney will be the nominee. >> republicans are waging war on women. >> is mitt romney from jupiter? >> do i believe the supreme court should overturn roe versus wade? yes. >> i love you, women. >> back in my day, they used bear aspirin for contraceptives. >> the gals put it between their knees, it wasn't that costly. >> a fascinating read. >> i know the debate over this law. >> democrats thought they would lose. the republicans...
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romney destroyed him. but in that rhetoric, he sealed his fate in the general election with the latinos, who he got blown out and provided a huge margin in the swing states. >> that is a good point, my point is, of course, the anonymous video operator, who captured the 47%, which is why we happen to have the tape. why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard, because some part of me as a political junky thinks the best move is the crazy thing. and for that, i would give it to mitt romney actually moving across the stage and grabbing rick perry, this kind of physical debate style he also had that revealed him to be crazy and not driven by the same things that most humans are driven by. but sort of the competitive work force bought. but i think at tend of the day e keep going back to the 47% -- >> it is everything. >> the release of that. and the timing of that changed the contours of the race, forever. >> and we don't really know who is resp
romney destroyed him. but in that rhetoric, he sealed his fate in the general election with the latinos, who he got blown out and provided a huge margin in the swing states. >> that is a good point, my point is, of course, the anonymous video operator, who captured the 47%, which is why we happen to have the tape. why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard, because some part of me as a political junky thinks the...
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mitt romney is in a succession. he is not an anomaly. >> the main rereason for mitt romney's defeat, given those problemsms the president had. >> i do think if you ask people at the end of 2011 the middle of 2011, it looked as if it was a slam dunk for republicans. e of the reasons we were at the fiscal cliff wasas because the republican resolution of the debt crisis of 2011 was under the tacit assumption that they would control the white house who cares about everything stacked ainst them? i think the main cause was obama ran an absolutely brilliant campaign. republicans had a very weak field, and mitt romney was the best of a vy weak field, and he himself was an odd candidate, a given after the financial crisis, a man essentially of wall street, and also a man who was an essential issue of the 2010 campaign, where republicans have succeeded was obamacare but he had had something similar in massachusetts. he had two strikes against him whwhich made it very difficult against the disciplined obama to win. >> i think
mitt romney is in a succession. he is not an anomaly. >> the main rereason for mitt romney's defeat, given those problemsms the president had. >> i do think if you ask people at the end of 2011 the middle of 2011, it looked as if it was a slam dunk for republicans. e of the reasons we were at the fiscal cliff wasas because the republican resolution of the debt crisis of 2011 was under the tacit assumption that they would control the white house who cares about everything stacked...
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romney's was the most devastating. the 47%einforced a stereotype that obama had spent a lot of money doing in ads, and after that, he really could not shake it. >> what about binders full of women recruiting for him? >> i think he topped that st- ection with his description of obama winning because of the gifts that he gave. >> but that was after the election. i was just wondering about the impact it had on women voters. >> he had this very well-paid adviser who was unbelievably cautious and felt he could win is by default. how he could put clint eastwood up there and not know what clint eastwood was going to say has to be the biggest single political blunder of the year. >> why did mike murphy not get involved? >> mitt romney went after mike murphy, according to all reports. he had been responsible, key in his election as governor, but just on the women thing, one point -- mitt romney carried white women's vote 54%-42%. that is a decisive, a decisive victory. >> he carried married women. >> they underestimated this el
romney's was the most devastating. the 47%einforced a stereotype that obama had spent a lot of money doing in ads, and after that, he really could not shake it. >> what about binders full of women recruiting for him? >> i think he topped that st- ection with his description of obama winning because of the gifts that he gave. >> but that was after the election. i was just wondering about the impact it had on women voters. >> he had this very well-paid adviser who was...
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i'm going to say it's mitt romney. this is a man who any republican by historical standards should have won the election against a president with unemployment above 7% with the wrong track in the 60%. with the economy still in the doldrums coming back but not coming back enough. president obama, if you want to be honest with yourself, was not supposed to win. mitt romney was supposed to win, and he didn't. by running the worst presidential campaign at least i have ever seen in my young lifetime. >> but how do you call a man with car elevators in his house a loser? he's doing very well. victoria? >> my loser award goes out to my fellow texans in terms of rick perry. rick perry flopped in the primary. then he goes back to texas and puts all his chips behind david dewhurst in the senate race. when ted cruz comes out and mops the floor. so rick perry is a double loser nationally and at the state level. >> richard? >> so i'm going to break my copout rule here and go with a whole group. it's all of those ceos including mitt
i'm going to say it's mitt romney. this is a man who any republican by historical standards should have won the election against a president with unemployment above 7% with the wrong track in the 60%. with the economy still in the doldrums coming back but not coming back enough. president obama, if you want to be honest with yourself, was not supposed to win. mitt romney was supposed to win, and he didn't. by running the worst presidential campaign at least i have ever seen in my young...
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it was a pretty good day for mitt romney. the president's listless performance in that first presidential debate which he says caused me to have a stroke averwards. here's part of his closing argument, if you want to call it that, an argument. >> you know, four years ago i said that i'm not a perfect man and i wouldn't be a perfect president. but i also promised that i'd fight every single day on behalf of the american people and all of those struggling to get in the middle class. if you vote for me, i'm promise i'll fight just as hard in the second term. >> i think a lot of it had to do with how he feels personally about mitt romney. the idea that he was just on the stage with him was beneath him. this guy was someplace else. yeah, yeah, it was his anniversary. politically, he was thinking why am i dealing with tier 2. and it showed. >> right before it, we saw a democrat facing a really tough situation along with a pretty popular governor of new jersey. here he is with the press conference with the new jersey governor, chris
it was a pretty good day for mitt romney. the president's listless performance in that first presidential debate which he says caused me to have a stroke averwards. here's part of his closing argument, if you want to call it that, an argument. >> you know, four years ago i said that i'm not a perfect man and i wouldn't be a perfect president. but i also promised that i'd fight every single day on behalf of the american people and all of those struggling to get in the middle class. if you...
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mitt romney is in a succession. he is not an anomaly. >> the main reason for mitt romney's defeat, given the problems the president had. >> if you ask people at the end of 2011, middle of 2011, to look like a slam dunk for republicans. one of the reasons we are at the fiscal cliff is the republican resolution was under the tacit assumption that they would control the white house, so who cared about everything stacked against them. the main problem was obama ran an absolutely brilliant campaign. republicans had a very weak field, and romney was the best of a very weak field. he himself was a very odd candidate. after the financial crisis, a man essentially of wall street, and a man whose essential issue of the 2010 campaign was obamacare, but he had passed something similar in massachusetts. he had two strikes against him, which made it very difficult begins the difficult rigid discipline obama to win. >> i think obama won because republicans underestimated him, and they did it through sell collision that goes back t
mitt romney is in a succession. he is not an anomaly. >> the main reason for mitt romney's defeat, given the problems the president had. >> if you ask people at the end of 2011, middle of 2011, to look like a slam dunk for republicans. one of the reasons we are at the fiscal cliff is the republican resolution was under the tacit assumption that they would control the white house, so who cared about everything stacked against them. the main problem was obama ran an absolutely...
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george romney. he exited with his politics in tatters. and the son by failing to live up to his father resuscitated george romney. i think the public's estimation of george romney emerges in a much better place this year than it was before this election. >> that's a good one. i like that. so gang, thank you all for a
george romney. he exited with his politics in tatters. and the son by failing to live up to his father resuscitated george romney. i think the public's estimation of george romney emerges in a much better place this year than it was before this election. >> that's a good one. i like that. so gang, thank you all for a
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the news media spends more time on what michael jackson had, you know, than what happens with mitt romney. comment? >> first of all i'm delighted you're an avid abc news watcher. listen, people have asked me about where the news is heading and what's happening. it's changing. going back to your contact book, seeing how much it changed while walter cronkite was there. a change certainly very much and it will continue to change and evolve. i continue to watch abc news, not so much as a user, but you watch and there's always material that i think as you scrape it is also things that are different than would've been when i was there. something i learned abc news is if you want more substantive, whatever you want more of, you hold it within your power to influence the. because no matter who the journalist, no matter how they all react to the audience. they do care. there is great news reporting being done there is outlets, electronically whether it is online or tv or radio, great news reporting being done right now. if you want more of that, then you need to find it and spending time and energ
the news media spends more time on what michael jackson had, you know, than what happens with mitt romney. comment? >> first of all i'm delighted you're an avid abc news watcher. listen, people have asked me about where the news is heading and what's happening. it's changing. going back to your contact book, seeing how much it changed while walter cronkite was there. a change certainly very much and it will continue to change and evolve. i continue to watch abc news, not so much as a...
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i believe the reason to that goes to something that mitt romney's brother said about him, scott romney. the older brother of mitt romney told pbs this year about mitt, i think he believes he's the only person in this position who can straighten out this country. there was this belief that mitt had that it was self-evident that he must be president, that he's the only one that can save the country from barack obama. and it was evident in the fact that it didn't bother him to change everything about himself, everything about his past, everything about his former beliefs to repudiate his governorship, whatever it took, because he had this belief, as did ann romney, as did his kids, that he was desperate to become our president. >> 700 nationwide that romney had for a presidential campaign just kind of a mazes me. i want to go on to another thing in the globe. it's beth meyers. she was worried about the campaign's appeal to women voters. she says to the globe, i wish i had expressed my deep concern more vociferously at that point. this was may/june when they really went on the offense, mey
i believe the reason to that goes to something that mitt romney's brother said about him, scott romney. the older brother of mitt romney told pbs this year about mitt, i think he believes he's the only person in this position who can straighten out this country. there was this belief that mitt had that it was self-evident that he must be president, that he's the only one that can save the country from barack obama. and it was evident in the fact that it didn't bother him to change everything...
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tagg romney said he wanted to be press less than anyone else in the world. if he could have found someone else to make the run, he would have stepped aside. >> i do know that there were very serious discussions and concerns at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition and saw it was pretty weak and his family pushed him to say that he would be the best person given the way the field has taken shape. >> nbc's garrett hak spent nearly a year and a half covering the romney campaign. >> in between campaigns romney was definitely stung by the loss, but he never really took his eye off the ball. he wrote a book about his own personal politics and he used his pac to fund other republican candidates and that's the kind of thing you do if you think you might run again, keep your options open. >> the next president of the united states. >> reporter: if he was reluctant to run, mr. romney seems to have been under some pressure at home to seriously rally recover. last summer ann urged her husband to enter the race despite his failed bid
tagg romney said he wanted to be press less than anyone else in the world. if he could have found someone else to make the run, he would have stepped aside. >> i do know that there were very serious discussions and concerns at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition and saw it was pretty weak and his family pushed him to say that he would be the best person given the way the field has taken shape. >> nbc's garrett hak spent nearly a year and a...
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that romney would win. why? they assumed it would be wider and older than it was. the enthusiasm numbers favored them but they didn't have enough voters. many republicans bought in to an alternative polling universe. created by some media pollster master mind to depress republican voting. in 2016, much of the emphasis of both parties to match and improve on the obama campaign's data-driven technological juggernaut and a lesson of 2012, don't ignore the data available to anyone with a computer. >>> second bucket, known as the second-term curse. american presidents successfully win re-election to have a rough ride in years five through eight thanks to legislative overreach, sometimes souring relations with congress, personnel problems, unforeseen external events or scandal. there's always an issue for second-term president and the first post election news conference the president himself acknowledged that his predecessors had their version of second-term struggles. >> i don't presume that because i won an ele
that romney would win. why? they assumed it would be wider and older than it was. the enthusiasm numbers favored them but they didn't have enough voters. many republicans bought in to an alternative polling universe. created by some media pollster master mind to depress republican voting. in 2016, much of the emphasis of both parties to match and improve on the obama campaign's data-driven technological juggernaut and a lesson of 2012, don't ignore the data available to anyone with a computer....
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like this ad romney ran in the state of ohio. it claimed jeep was moving to china because of the automobile loan, and it was totally false. and it totally backfired on the camp. it toe workers and their families turned out in full force on election day. and of course president obama won ohio. middle class americans across this country stood in long lines to cast a vote for the candidate who would help them the most. they ignored the republican threats about a failing economy. the republicans wanted to kill organized labor. in 2012, they may have given it new life instead. here is someone who has been with us all yearlong covering workers' issues. joining me tonight, john nichols, washington correspondent of "the nation" magazine. john, it has been a very eventful year when it comes to labor. has labor been emboldened by the obama victory in november? and is there really been a new stage set for what they can accomplish? >> i think so. i think labor changed over the last year and a half, and especially over the last year. one of t
like this ad romney ran in the state of ohio. it claimed jeep was moving to china because of the automobile loan, and it was totally false. and it totally backfired on the camp. it toe workers and their families turned out in full force on election day. and of course president obama won ohio. middle class americans across this country stood in long lines to cast a vote for the candidate who would help them the most. they ignored the republican threats about a failing economy. the republicans...
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. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his campaign staff and top gop leaders continue assessing how he lost the election to a vulnerable incumbent president, the oldest son of the former massachusetts governor is raising eyebrows about his dad's initial reluctance to make a second white house run. in a story published in the "boston globe" tagg romney said his father, quote, wanted to be president less than anyone. he would have been ecstatic to step aside. "boston globe" reporter michael krenish interviewed tagg romney. >> i know there were serious discussions at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition
. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his...
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then mitt romney came out -- >> then mitt romney talked. >> with his own words, revealed in september, seemingly and vividly and confirming his own words and mouth caught on videotape all the caricatu caricatures -- >> at 47%, we focus on that. we forget this is a guy -- katel greatest hits for democratic ad makers. i like firing people. won a big victory in florida and the next morning go on a cable news show and say something equally shocking. i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> for me, the 47% video was so -- it was shocking in its brutal honesty, but also how he was able to devery half the country. i don't have to worry about those folks, those folks are freeloaders, looking for a handout, they don't know personal responsibility. these are the people he, one, hopes to lead, and, two, you would think he would want their votes. the next day, he doubled down on that and then a week later tried to pull it back. so for the american people to see someone to be president of the united states insult them, that was the one thing that put the lid on -- >> probably not a good marketing
then mitt romney came out -- >> then mitt romney talked. >> with his own words, revealed in september, seemingly and vividly and confirming his own words and mouth caught on videotape all the caricatu caricatures -- >> at 47%, we focus on that. we forget this is a guy -- katel greatest hits for democratic ad makers. i like firing people. won a big victory in florida and the next morning go on a cable news show and say something equally shocking. i'm not concerned about the...
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and then romney came out -- >> and then romney talked. >> with his own words, revealed in september, seemingly and vividly confirming in his own words through his own mouth caught on videotape, all of the worst stereotypes and kas caricatures. >> jonathan capehart, i mean, 47% we focus on that, we forget this is a guy that gets -- the greatest hits for democratic ad makers. i like firing people. do you remember that one? ten others just like that. he won a big victory in florida and the next morning go on a cable news show and say something equally shocking. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> yeah. for me, the 47% video was so -- i mean, it was shocking in its brutal honesty but also how he was able to deride half the country. literally half the kcountry he said, well, i don't have to worry about those folks, they're free loaders lack iing for a handout. they don't know how to learn personal responsibility. and think about these are the people he, one, hopes to lead and, two, you would think he would want their votes. and the next d
and then romney came out -- >> and then romney talked. >> with his own words, revealed in september, seemingly and vividly confirming in his own words through his own mouth caught on videotape, all of the worst stereotypes and kas caricatures. >> jonathan capehart, i mean, 47% we focus on that, we forget this is a guy that gets -- the greatest hits for democratic ad makers. i like firing people. do you remember that one? ten others just like that. he won a big victory in...
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i think a lot of you folks in romney will believe that the republicans hurt romney. >> i think that the debates became a bit of a side show there. if you looked at the volatility of the electorate at the time and how the numbers went up and down based on the big performances and the side show that they became, i think that was something that had a very big effect. >> you could have a large -- >> i think the rnc can step in and take a bit more of a management role in the process and have an impact on the nominee and have that nominee much more viably positioned for a general election. >> a fairly large field, jeb would shrink it a little bit. but, without jeb, i think seven eight of serious people. >> i was going to say, unlike the 12 field, where you're like rick santorum is the last guy standing? i should have went to vegas and been a millionaire. you have real people, paul ryan, you know, the v.p. nominee, bobby gindle, a governor of a state, marko rubio, a senator. you know, you've got real people. >> and let me throw in another name. of the four imbattled republican governors, whoev
i think a lot of you folks in romney will believe that the republicans hurt romney. >> i think that the debates became a bit of a side show there. if you looked at the volatility of the electorate at the time and how the numbers went up and down based on the big performances and the side show that they became, i think that was something that had a very big effect. >> you could have a large -- >> i think the rnc can step in and take a bit more of a management role in the...
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so close to the oval office, romney now mostly hangs out at disney world. leaving the national stage along with romney in varying degrees of disgrace were general david petraeus, undone by an affair with his own biographer. lance armstrong, stripped of everything including the yellow jersey on his back. and governor rocket rod blagojevich sent to a federal lockup for 14 years for the crime of being a chicago politician. >> then i thought about mandela, dr. king, gandhi. >> reporter: one of blago's old opponents in the illinois state legislature, republican mike bost became a web star this year when he lost his mind in public. >> i feel like somebody trying to be released from egypt! let my people go! >> reporter: meanwhile down in the florida legislature, there was rigorous debate this year over the meaning of jay-z's song "99 problems." >> aren't you sharp as a tack? are you a lawyer or something? >> in that song, it was the officer who said, "aren't you sharp as a tack or something"? you should try for a lawyer or something. so i got on you that. >> repor
so close to the oval office, romney now mostly hangs out at disney world. leaving the national stage along with romney in varying degrees of disgrace were general david petraeus, undone by an affair with his own biographer. lance armstrong, stripped of everything including the yellow jersey on his back. and governor rocket rod blagojevich sent to a federal lockup for 14 years for the crime of being a chicago politician. >> then i thought about mandela, dr. king, gandhi. >> reporter:...
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and the romney campaign's response was not to find other workers who would attest to romney's management, it was to find ceos who would talk about how great a guy he was. you can't imagine a more ham-handed response. >>> coming up, the most thought-provoking must-read opinion pages of the year. and later, with what would lyndon? our interview with steven spielberg about his new film on the 16th president. we're back in a moment. oh it's clearance time! yeah, our low prices are even lower. we need to teach her how to walk. she is taking up valuable cart space. aren't you, honey? [ male announcer ] it's clearance time! up to 50% off seasonal decor. 50% off toys. apparel $3 to $9. walmart. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriag
and the romney campaign's response was not to find other workers who would attest to romney's management, it was to find ceos who would talk about how great a guy he was. you can't imagine a more ham-handed response. >>> coming up, the most thought-provoking must-read opinion pages of the year. and later, with what would lyndon? our interview with steven spielberg about his new film on the 16th president. we're back in a moment. oh it's clearance time! yeah, our low prices are even...
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in the end obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's policies would favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our nbc-wall street journal poll to go into his convention with this personal rating under water and in his campaign with a painful number. just 47% of votes viewing him positively. the obama campaign was also able to get more bang for the buck because they bought ads early. >> the obama campaign purchased it way ahead of time. romney bought it the week of. lesson two, the republican brand needs a hard look. the gop's favorable rating has been under water for two years, since december 2010, and, in fact, if you take that out, it's been nearly five years. in our final poll, full poll before the election, just 36% of registered voters said they had a positive view of the republican party, 43% held a negative view. the democratic party
in the end obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's policies would favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our nbc-wall street journal poll to go into his convention with this personal rating under water and in his campaign with a painful number. just 47% of votes viewing him positively. the obama...
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. >>> surprising comments from mitt romney's oldest son tagg romney. >>> but first the fight over aid for hurricanes sandy victims. the republicans offered ♪ [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. this is the age of taking action. viagra. talk to your doctor. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind auto
. >>> surprising comments from mitt romney's oldest son tagg romney. >>> but first the fight over aid for hurricanes sandy victims. the republicans offered ♪ [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take...
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in the end, obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's polauolicies d favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. and romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our poll to go into a convention with his personal rating under water and campaign with a painful number, just 47% of voters viewing him positively. the obama campaign was also able to get more bang for the buck because they bought ads early and they were careful about where to buy the ads. in the last week, they paid $5 fif 50 for a single ad in raleigh. the romney campaign had to pay $2,665 for the same ad. >> lesson two, the republican brand needs a hard look. the gop's favorable rating has been under water for two years, since december 2010. if you take that out, it's been nearly five years. in our final full poll before the election, just 36% of voters said they had a positive view of the republican party. the democratic pa
in the end, obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's polauolicies d favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. and romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our poll to go into a convention with his personal rating under water and campaign with a painful number, just 47% of voters viewing him positively. the obama campaign was also able to get more...
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i was never a big romney fan. i didn't have a personal problem with him, but i never thought of him as as thentic. the one time i caught him in iowa signing people's posters and it was a rainy day. i said to him can you say let them eat cake in french. it's the ultimate side of being above everyone else. he says i can, but i won't. and he wouldn't look up at me. he's so trained and disciplined. he wanted me to know he was fluent enough in french, but he wasn't going to be stupid enough to do it on camera saying let them eat cake in french. should we believe he didn't really go for it with all he had? >> they said take a month and understand the campaign. you have to understand this is a private man going for the most public job in the country. and he did not want to talk about certain things in his life. and his campaign strategist did not want to talk about his mormon faith and background. >> we knew that about his business career embarrassing. the mormonism is i think a credit to the democrats. nobody likes to b
i was never a big romney fan. i didn't have a personal problem with him, but i never thought of him as as thentic. the one time i caught him in iowa signing people's posters and it was a rainy day. i said to him can you say let them eat cake in french. it's the ultimate side of being above everyone else. he says i can, but i won't. and he wouldn't look up at me. he's so trained and disciplined. he wanted me to know he was fluent enough in french, but he wasn't going to be stupid enough to do it...
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." >> can mitt romney self deport himself into the oval office? >> carl rove thinks he's conspireing with the easter bunny. >> is the republican party fired up and ready to go? >> wednesday, june 14th. wednesday, december 7th. >> and this is "now." >> this year the grand old party gifted us the grand old clown car. time to bring in steady eddie, aka rick santorum. seems to be in the throws of a tantorum. i say hot garbage. mitt romney, the kaiser of the republican party. message to newt gingrich, no hold's bar. that was my addendum. the angry teddy bear, newt gingrich. the angry teddy bear, the angry attack muffin. i noticed you liked to call him that as well. >> i stole that from you. >> you are the creator of the angry teddy bear comparison with newt gingrich. >> for that, i expect to be charging more higher rates in the coming months. >> as the primaries produce new names, so did our show. >> the effortlessly elegant jonathan capehart. eternally buzzy ben smith. ari melber. steve. queen bee and managing editor of the sunday morning himself. fav
." >> can mitt romney self deport himself into the oval office? >> carl rove thinks he's conspireing with the easter bunny. >> is the republican party fired up and ready to go? >> wednesday, june 14th. wednesday, december 7th. >> and this is "now." >> this year the grand old party gifted us the grand old clown car. time to bring in steady eddie, aka rick santorum. seems to be in the throws of a tantorum. i say hot garbage. mitt romney, the...
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romney? >> good luck tonight. really. >> it was not a spontaneous demonstration? >> please proceed. can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of "the cycle" here on msnbc and jimmy williams is an msnbc contributor. come on, guys, when you see that, don't you just get nostalgic for the campaign. it's the talk of the 47%, free stuff, and the latest from tagg romney that apparently his dad never really wanted the job anyway, right? >> the clown car is so stuffed what mall aproposeisms and other stuff. we didn't know rick perry forgetting to name some -- and newt gingrich's press release and any number of comments from him. >> but there's more. let's take a look at what i'm going to call the most monumental piece of found that didn't make it into that montage. >> there are 47% of the people who wil
romney? >> good luck tonight. really. >> it was not a spontaneous demonstration? >> please proceed. can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of...
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they were concerned it was talking too much about romney's faith. it captured something that we knew are was there. >> you write that president obama stored out of a debate session and he had tensions with the staff who knew he was not up to par and that and joked that romney wasn't human enough to get elected. have you reported either of those things during the campaign, they would have been bombshells. >> that is true. i would like to think they're bo bombshells now, howie. one thing that was interesting in covering both sides of this story t wasn't, it wasn't as close as we thought. the two organization were not really comparable in terms of scale and competence. that really what comes through. we had one that was more of a facade and the other working on a deeper level than we could have imagined. >> if anyone had reported during the campaign that the romney campaign was not up to par in terms of competence. >> we would have been nailed as being bias. >> now able to report something that you couldn't report and maybe you didn't have any of the i
they were concerned it was talking too much about romney's faith. it captured something that we knew are was there. >> you write that president obama stored out of a debate session and he had tensions with the staff who knew he was not up to par and that and joked that romney wasn't human enough to get elected. have you reported either of those things during the campaign, they would have been bombshells. >> that is true. i would like to think they're bo bombshells now, howie. one...
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it could be the gop brand is being pulled down by mitt romney, or at least tag romney and what he said about he's recent comments. if we're talking about hand bren grenades, listen to this. he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. had he no desire to run. if key have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. um, what are people supposed to make of that? especially for the millions of americans and those big donor that is came out in support of mitt romney and his candidacy and tag romney being a big advisor to that campaign itself, but now, eh, he didn't really want it. he didn't care. >> mitt romney was plotting his run for the presidency for at least seven years. i mean, you could go back even further if you look back at how he governed in massachusetts thinking getting health care through would be something that would help him vault to a national stage. you know, all of his positioning on the issues was all designed to get through a republican primary. he didn't want it, he could have stepped aside. there wasn't a whole,
it could be the gop brand is being pulled down by mitt romney, or at least tag romney and what he said about he's recent comments. if we're talking about hand bren grenades, listen to this. he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. had he no desire to run. if key have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. um, what are people supposed to make of that? especially for the millions of americans and those big donor that is came out in...
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the same applied to mitt romney. host: we have this item. it says it is official for the first time in history that a political candidate has raised $1 billion in one campaign. president obama and his affiliates had raised $one. 03 -- has raised $1.03 billion. is $1 billion of the new benchmark? if you cannot raise that, you are not going to the white house? guest: each presidential campaign has seen costs ratcheted up. this is likely the new benchmark. you will not see a campaign where the nominee thinks he or she can win the white house by raising less. 2016 will be an open seat election. you will have an open fight on the democrat and republican side. you will have individual candidates trying to raise money. then you will have the party coming together to raise money for the nominee. that is when you will see more money spent in the general election. host: 2 $1 billion was raised by the campaigns themselves. this is separate and apart from the super pac's and rnc and dnc money? guest: i believe it includes the affiliated state parties th
the same applied to mitt romney. host: we have this item. it says it is official for the first time in history that a political candidate has raised $1 billion in one campaign. president obama and his affiliates had raised $one. 03 -- has raised $1.03 billion. is $1 billion of the new benchmark? if you cannot raise that, you are not going to the white house? guest: each presidential campaign has seen costs ratcheted up. this is likely the new benchmark. you will not see a campaign where the...
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and who can forget this one of romney posing at burrito restaurant. one employee sure looks surprised. this was the one heartwarming gabby giffords on the stage at the dnc. what a moment. and here's another classic. the picture of president obama posing with u.s. gymnast making the not-impressed-face. but the hour of "politics nation" family voted for this one the best. who can forget president obama getting a great big bear hug from a one-time republican pizza shop owner in florida. look at that. he says it's the best of the year. it shows how republicans can reach across the aisle. and shelly says i met the owner of the pizza shop. great guy. great pizza. we want to hear what you think, too. please head over to facebook and search "politics nation" and like us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. >>> just a short time ago, the president slammed congress for consistently taking us to the brink. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thinned. this is deja vu all over aga
and who can forget this one of romney posing at burrito restaurant. one employee sure looks surprised. this was the one heartwarming gabby giffords on the stage at the dnc. what a moment. and here's another classic. the picture of president obama posing with u.s. gymnast making the not-impressed-face. but the hour of "politics nation" family voted for this one the best. who can forget president obama getting a great big bear hug from a one-time republican pizza shop owner in florida....
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we won. >> i don't think mitt romney embraced the tea party agenda. he was not the choice. there were many candidates in the primary. we had a long primary process. it was hard-fought and he was the nominee. but -- >> where did he -- >> i want to go back to -- >> i know he was a miert and liberal in the past. where did he differ with you? >> i want to back up for a second. i want to clarify because everybody talks about how the tea party is so extreme and radical. we're not focused on social issues at all. we're focused only on the spending. maya, when you get down to a local level, there may be some groups that focus on social issues. but overall, what has brought us together and why we have democrats and independents within our ranks, are because they, too, want washington to live within their means. and that is why we've been so strong. that's the -- >> but the polling data that we show, the broad -- the healthy majority of american people do not have a favorable opinion of the tea party. favorable opinion of the tea party is relegated to the conservative base of the rep
we won. >> i don't think mitt romney embraced the tea party agenda. he was not the choice. there were many candidates in the primary. we had a long primary process. it was hard-fought and he was the nominee. but -- >> where did he -- >> i want to go back to -- >> i know he was a miert and liberal in the past. where did he differ with you? >> i want to back up for a second. i want to clarify because everybody talks about how the tea party is so extreme and radical....
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they never fully embraced romney. i felt that the ryan choice was in part an effort to make sure that that yvette went well. t went well.even t it played in closer to the house republicans who -- congress was pulling 9%, 10%. every poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4%. so to pick someone who he identified as the intellectual leader of the republican party was clearly a very significant leader of that caucus and was surprising to me. brian was so identified with the presentation -- ryan was so identified with the privatization and a voucher for medicare idea, instead of talking about the economy, which is where they wanted it to play out, we had a lengthy debate about the economy, about medicare. i cannot think that was to their benefit. our numbers among senior citizens were probably higher than we anticipated. >> you are noted for the axelrod never as smarte as you think you are. >> you're never as smart as when you win and you're never as dumb as when you lose. >> we talked about some of the shortcomings o
they never fully embraced romney. i felt that the ryan choice was in part an effort to make sure that that yvette went well. t went well.even t it played in closer to the house republicans who -- congress was pulling 9%, 10%. every poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4%. so to pick someone who he identified as the intellectual leader of the republican party was clearly a very significant leader of that caucus and was surprising to me. brian was so identified with the presentation --...
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i don't think he really respected governor romney at that point, probably thought he might have been a bit of a lightweight, also a feeling president obama wanted to feel presidential and above it all and all those things combined for a horrific performance, even his aides would admit that and he would admit that at this point. it put romney back in the race when many of us thought he might be a goner. >> just a few short weeks later hurricane sandy hit and president obama had an opportunity to appear with new jersey governor chris christie, sort of certifying a bipartisan image before the election which a lot of people thought tipped the scales back to him. >> certainly a break for the election, sandy hit the northeast. it's always good for presidents to appear presidential, to appear to be doing things. to have that happen a week out of the election was certainly an advantage. probably lost votes in the northeast states because people couldn't get to the polls, but i can't help think it was an advantage, if only to stop momentum romney had going into the last week. >> and some of m
i don't think he really respected governor romney at that point, probably thought he might have been a bit of a lightweight, also a feeling president obama wanted to feel presidential and above it all and all those things combined for a horrific performance, even his aides would admit that and he would admit that at this point. it put romney back in the race when many of us thought he might be a goner. >> just a few short weeks later hurricane sandy hit and president obama had an...
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. >> the romney campaign was wrong. they thought they were going to win. if you talk to them at 5:00 on election day they would have told he they honestly believed they were going to win. i also think that -- the country is going to vote to be in a different position and i think we have got to understand that -- >> is that a ring tone? what ring tone was that? >> i have two ring tones. i have dancing queen is my general ring tone for most people and then my wife's ring tone is super trooper. we stay with abba all the way through. >> well, that was, in fact, dancing queen. anyway, it's not the first time abb a has caused newt to pause from politics. >> immediately allow for implementation that day of the pipeline. i had to cut off my son. that was dancing queen. i didn't have to answer it. if it's super trooper, it's my wife, i have to answer. i should have turned the phone off. >>. >>> next, what money can't buy. the sunlight foundation is out with a list of congressional candidates actually who spent more than $35 per vote in the 2012 election. topping th
. >> the romney campaign was wrong. they thought they were going to win. if you talk to them at 5:00 on election day they would have told he they honestly believed they were going to win. i also think that -- the country is going to vote to be in a different position and i think we have got to understand that -- >> is that a ring tone? what ring tone was that? >> i have two ring tones. i have dancing queen is my general ring tone for most people and then my wife's ring tone is...
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joining us now to help us sort out this mess, we have former adviser to the bush administration and the romney campaign, dan senor. dan, will we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm afraid we will. i think it will get fixed right after right into the new year but i don't think it will get solved. >> something small, kicking the can down the road? >> correct. >> that same old thing. >> deal with the impasse until we get to the debt ceiling impasse. >> we'll talk about the politics of that coming up. former governor of pennsylvania and nbc news political analyst, ed rendell. ed, are we going over the cliff? >> no, i think we will kick the can down the road emphatically, but we won't go over the cliff. >> wow. director of the earth institute, economist dr. jeffrey sachs. if we do, should we? >> more of the same because we're not going to solve anything, even if there's a deal today, we're going to see exactly that same tape replayed in two months, four months, six months. so i think there will be some kind of deal today, tomorrow, but it won't solve any of the basic issues. >> so a doomsday deadline
joining us now to help us sort out this mess, we have former adviser to the bush administration and the romney campaign, dan senor. dan, will we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm afraid we will. i think it will get fixed right after right into the new year but i don't think it will get solved. >> something small, kicking the can down the road? >> correct. >> that same old thing. >> deal with the impasse until we get to the debt ceiling impasse. >> we'll talk...
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it comes from just watching mitt romney, but there was reluctance from him. >> e.j., a lot of folks are scratching their heads after listening that to, maybe you are one of them, too. >> thank you. >>> devastating news for webs sister, new york, two firefighters kid. two other firefighters were also wounded, and police just confirming there is not an active shooter. we've got a live report from the scene right now. amanda, what is the latest you are hearing? >> reporter: we're hearing the latest that four firefighters have been shot just before 6:00 this morning, two of them have died because of their injuries. we're told this all happened when firefighters from west webster fire district were called to a home just before 6:00 with reports of a fire. when the first responding crews got out of their vehicles. they were met by several shots. they had to retreat. those individuals who were shot were able to be taken to the hospital. we're told the fire just grew and grew after that. three homes right now are fully engulfed in flames and at least one vehicle. we're told both homes are a com
it comes from just watching mitt romney, but there was reluctance from him. >> e.j., a lot of folks are scratching their heads after listening that to, maybe you are one of them, too. >> thank you. >>> devastating news for webs sister, new york, two firefighters kid. two other firefighters were also wounded, and police just confirming there is not an active shooter. we've got a live report from the scene right now. amanda, what is the latest you are hearing? >>...
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the ohio state university analysis says 19,000 of those voters would have cast their ballots for mitt romney but the rest would have gone to president obama. governor rick scott initially denied there were problems and refused to extend early voting hours. both hispanics and blacks were disproportionately deterred from voting. >>> the german magazine mistakenly published an online obituary sunday for former president george h.w. bush just hours after a family spokesperson said the 88-year-old is recovering from his illness. the obituary wasn't flattering describing the former president as, quote, a colorless politician. it was taken down after a few minutes. today the legendary "newsweek" magazine will publish its last edition and playoff to a digital only format in the new year. new economics of the media industry made it a money loser. gallup has just released its annual most admired list. for the 11th year in a row hillary clinton is the most admired woman. for the fifth consecutive year president obama is the most admired man. if you read only one thing this morning, in honor of new year
the ohio state university analysis says 19,000 of those voters would have cast their ballots for mitt romney but the rest would have gone to president obama. governor rick scott initially denied there were problems and refused to extend early voting hours. both hispanics and blacks were disproportionately deterred from voting. >>> the german magazine mistakenly published an online obituary sunday for former president george h.w. bush just hours after a family spokesperson said the...
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i was delighted in 2012, to see the romney people complaining that obama got votes because he was supported of legal equality of this. i think we're on the verge of getting full legal equality. it's mostly because we started being honest about ourselves. but i will tell you one very important part of it, al, which you know. there was an effort by the right wing through the remembpublican party to marginalize this and go to african americans and hispanics and saying don't associate with those people. and i'm very proud that i've been among those who have worked hard. they have been very strong. and i think that that solidarity has been a major part of our ability to win. >> many americans look at congress and they just see gridlock. can it be fixed, mr. chairman? >> yes. in the gridlock, it's true. but it's a very spefk reason for it. we weren't gridlocked in 2007 and 2008. we disagreed with them on some issues, but, in fact, 2008, september, just before the election, i and others work with the bush administration to deal with the financial crisis. earlier that year, harry reid and nancy pel
i was delighted in 2012, to see the romney people complaining that obama got votes because he was supported of legal equality of this. i think we're on the verge of getting full legal equality. it's mostly because we started being honest about ourselves. but i will tell you one very important part of it, al, which you know. there was an effort by the right wing through the remembpublican party to marginalize this and go to african americans and hispanics and saying don't associate with those...
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. >> what do you want me to tell romney? i can't tell him to do that. can't do that to himself. [ laughter ] >> two unforgettable and, shall we say, unusual political moments of the year, ones that still resonate with a lot of americans, even those who are happy to bid farewell to the political year 2012. so, what other lessons did we get from the year that was? joining me now with a unique perspective on this and other topics, political comedian dino ma dahlia, also known as the dean of comedy. good morning. >> good morning, happy new year. >> lots to talk about, but first, your take on the fiscal cliff. >> isn't congress great? yesterday nbc had a poll, they had a 11% approval rating. the more shocking part is who are the 11% who think they're doing a good job? how low are their standards to think that congress -- this is the most dysfunctional group of people. we have to put them in couples therapy with dr. phil, dr. doolittle. i'm not sure who can help them. >> i'm not sure. >> we suffer as a result of their bipartisanship. >> we talked about the bi
. >> what do you want me to tell romney? i can't tell him to do that. can't do that to himself. [ laughter ] >> two unforgettable and, shall we say, unusual political moments of the year, ones that still resonate with a lot of americans, even those who are happy to bid farewell to the political year 2012. so, what other lessons did we get from the year that was? joining me now with a unique perspective on this and other topics, political comedian dino ma dahlia, also known as the...
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wages go down or the top 2% who have done phenomenally well, while their effective tax rate, as mitt romney reminded us by not releasing his tax returns, is extremely low. so to my mind, what this deficit reduction debate is about is asking the wealthiest people, the large corporations to help us with deficit reduction and give a break for a change to the middle class and working families. >> as you say, one that would mean less money for seniors with the social security adjustment is off the table, are you more optimistic about getting a deal done. >> we still have a long way to go. >> what do you see as the major sticking point? >> one of the sticking pointing, what the republicans want to do is continue the 2010 agreement on lower estate tax rates, which means, chris, $120 billion tax break over a ten-year period for the top 0.2 of 1%. they get $120 billion tax break. and people come forward and say we're very serious about deficit reduction. third area that we have to look at, the president wanted, as you recall a few weeks ago, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. we're now down to, as i unde
wages go down or the top 2% who have done phenomenally well, while their effective tax rate, as mitt romney reminded us by not releasing his tax returns, is extremely low. so to my mind, what this deficit reduction debate is about is asking the wealthiest people, the large corporations to help us with deficit reduction and give a break for a change to the middle class and working families. >> as you say, one that would mean less money for seniors with the social security adjustment is off...
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example, for incomes $250,000 and above for individuals, $300,000 for families there is a cap as mitt romney talked about and that is a way of raising revenue from the top 2%. more over there is the preservation of a lot of important things to democrats, tax credits for lower income, middle income families, tax credits for investment, bonus depreciation provision and renewable energy. so there are things in there that i think the vice president will use to try to convince democrats that it's a good deal for everybody including them. >> can i respond to that? >> absolutely. >> david brings up a very good point. this is a very big bill. i obviously just looked at the top line stuff. what leader mcconnell and vice president biden did was borderline brilliant where there is a little bit in here for everybody, both conservatives but also progressives where they can go back to the constituency specifically the house and say i voted for this and here is why. there is farm stuff in there, really some good stuff folks can give them comfort and say this is a good thing for our constituency. >> and, yo
example, for incomes $250,000 and above for individuals, $300,000 for families there is a cap as mitt romney talked about and that is a way of raising revenue from the top 2%. more over there is the preservation of a lot of important things to democrats, tax credits for lower income, middle income families, tax credits for investment, bonus depreciation provision and renewable energy. so there are things in there that i think the vice president will use to try to convince democrats that it's a...
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. >> mitt romney's caught on tape comments, reveal his true feelings about the poor in the country. how the 47% changed the presidential race. and we traveled the country to bring you stories of workers fighting to keep their jobsed a republicans tried to dismantle labor unions. the future of organized laner and much more. stay tuned. >>> welcome back to msnbc and our rolling coverage of the fiscal cliff deal. the vote overnight was 89-8. it's over in the house. we heard from house democrats as they finished their caucus. coming out in support of that deal that came from the senate and was approved in that vote 89-8. nancy pelosi, highwoyey there a well, to count the votes to make sure how many they could guarantee to support that bill. there's a recent development we have learned here at msnbc. we are hearing there is not support coming from cantor. the speaker is not sure -- he walked by the cameras earlier. did not make a comment. nbc's mike viqueira what are you hearing? >> eric cantor, the number two republican after john boehner, the speaker of the house voiced his lack of sup
. >> mitt romney's caught on tape comments, reveal his true feelings about the poor in the country. how the 47% changed the presidential race. and we traveled the country to bring you stories of workers fighting to keep their jobsed a republicans tried to dismantle labor unions. the future of organized laner and much more. stay tuned. >>> welcome back to msnbc and our rolling coverage of the fiscal cliff deal. the vote overnight was 89-8. it's over in the house. we heard from...
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. >> mitt romney kept saying this country could be on the road to be more like greece if we did not get our arms around it. the unemployment rate remains high. are you optimistic in the short term about our country's future. >> it is hard to be. i tried to be. if we can get this resolved, this fiscal cliff situation, and have a pathway to seeing the deficit be reduced, cannot do it overnight, if we can see there is a path, a trajectory of slowing down the growth of spending to the point you can see the deficit will ultimately go away over a reasonable time, people will start investing again, hiring again, and i spoke to a business group yesterday and asked if they would hire just because they get a tax credit for hiring people. they said no. if you see the deficit will go away and there is hope we are on the right path to fiscal sanity, will you then hired? yes. we will have markets for our products and services and then we will need more people. we are stuck right now because all we have done for a year and a half was kick the can down the road. i voted against the act a year- and-a-ha
. >> mitt romney kept saying this country could be on the road to be more like greece if we did not get our arms around it. the unemployment rate remains high. are you optimistic in the short term about our country's future. >> it is hard to be. i tried to be. if we can get this resolved, this fiscal cliff situation, and have a pathway to seeing the deficit be reduced, cannot do it overnight, if we can see there is a path, a trajectory of slowing down the growth of spending to the...